Monday, November 09, 2009

Blending sports and politics...something I've never, ever done before

(*-I know this is similar to my last entry, but it bears repeating.)

As some of you perhaps know, I am a bit of a fan of the New Orleans Saints. I was born the year of the 1-15 Aints, so there was never a question that it would be in my blood for life.

With that being the case, I've seen how little respect the Saints get even when they're racking up wins like Glenn Beck racks up batshit crazy. Witness the Week 10 NFL Power Rankings at

NFL Power Rankings: Week 10

1. Indianapolis Colts - Colts keep on winning and have the ring that proves they are legit.

2. New Orleans Saints - New Orleans still has big questions on defense but is still good enough for #2 in the week 10 NFL power rankings.

Now I'll admit that the Saints have a lot of respect these days, even from historically hardcore haters. And that I had to dig this deep into the power-ranking pool to even find one that had the Saints as low as No. 2 is an encouraging sign indeed.

It's not the ranking I have the issue with; it's the ring.

Specifically, the fact that the Colts' winning of a past Super Bowl is the reason they're ranked higher than the Saints here. And, let's face it, that's about the only reason they might deserve to be. Indy is an exciting team to watch, yes, but they do not light up the scoreboard quite like the Saints, and are winning by margins as thin as the logic in Glenn Beck's head.

Funny thing about the Super Bowl is, it has no bearing on future performance, no matter how much people like to pretend it does. So the Saints were losers from 1967-86, and again from 1993-99, and again in 2005. Are they those teams in 2009? No. As I always say, that's why they play the games and don't just consult an almanac.

I watched Super Bowl XLI - pitting the Colts against the Chicago Lucky Fluky Care Bears in rainy Miami - from a hotel room in Springfield, Missouri. Why? Because I was in the process of moving there that very weekend. I had just taken the job I currently have, relieved that I was able to find a gig in my field after an exhaustive year-and-a-half of searching. Come Super Bowl time in February, I will have been at my job for three years. It's been a long, sometimes difficult, always educational journey. Just long enough for everything to change, from the president to The Price Is Right. And in that time, there have been 41 Any Given Sundays. And a whole different Manning (and a whole different Kurt Warner-led team) winning the Super Bowl.

The point being, time has passed. Judge Indianapolis on its own current merits, not because the Colts won three years ago. Similarly, don't assume the Saints will fail just because, well, that's what they do. It's 2009. They're both 8-0. Let's start from there.

Speaking of pointless expectations... (How's that for a smooth transition to politics?)

I hear a lot of Republican pundits crowing over the results of the recent spate of elections, as if it's a referendum on President Obama's performance thus far. Easy, tigers. It's gonna take a lot more than a few shoo-in local races to get Sarah Palin in the White House. Let's see how that health care thing turns out before declaring the Democrats toast. Or, better yet, try standing for something rather than obstruction, GOP, and maybe then you won't have to pin all your political hopes on what the opposition does.

Again, I repeat myself. But so does the news.


rhonda said...

you weren't kidding when you said you were going to get off the phone and probably have dreams of the saints and the republicans. ha.

NOLA Progressive said...

Ian, as a life-long Saints fan and 5 year seasoon ticket holder you definitely are hitting home with me. I mean for example the halftime show on Monda Night's game...Plenty of hype about Indy and Bret Favre's comeback, but very light on the Saints.

Very light on the most scoring offense in the league, and one of they highest scoring defenses in the league to boot. I guess we don't make muster on our past history, but the feeling is very different this year. There is a reslience and power to this team that I have never witnessed before.

I'm not one of those guys who is already buying his airfare to Miami, but I'm definitely not ruling out the possibility that I may before it is all over.

Keep the faith, and let them all eat crowe when the time comes.

Oh, and the recent election results are much more indicative of incumbents being held liable for a poor economy than any particular referendum on any individual or party. I know there is a crowd touting this as the beginning of the end for the Obama admin and the Dem's on the hill, and maybe it is. However, it is not the result of the elections, but rather how they handle healthcare and some other key issues in the near future that will truly tell.

Whoooo Daaaaat?!!

Tom Alday said...

You know what I love about your little blog Ian, it's the utter denial you and your little sycophant NOLA are mired in concerning Dem 2010 prospects. It'll be a glorious 94-like ass stomping. I want to see you cry again like you did back when G Dub was reelected.

Ian McGibboney said...

Yes, Tom, because making me cry is what it's all about. Not health care, not doing what is best for the country. Making liberals cry.

At least the Republicans of 1994 stood for something. Complete shit, but something.

NOLA Progressive said...
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NOLA Progressive said...

and sorry for all the grammatical errors and typos. I'm using a new phone and having quite got the hang of the new keyboard and predictive text.

NOLA Progressive said...

Ok. I just had to retype some of that. Poorly thought out and hastily typed on an unfamiliar machine.

Tom...what is it that you just don't get? If the Dems don't follow and implement a progressive agenda, then I hope they do get a "glorious ass-stomping" as you so eloquently put it.

For me (and I would presume Ian), it's really not about the party. It's not a game to be won or lost akin to the Saints we are also discussing. This is about people's lives. Look, I'll be the first to admit I get fired up over the competition of all the elections and "us vs. them" spin", but it's really just us vs. us. We are just shooting ourselves in the foot.

I don't like the GOP because of it's Evangelical base wholly equipped with condemnation, superiority and frankly, stupidity. That's what is at the root of the GOP. As far as somoene who wants to talk about fiscal conservatism and even values to a lesser degree, I have absolutely no beef. I would make the argument that many of the intelligent fiscal conservatives with sense are being penny-wise and pound foolish lately, but they don't stirr my ire at all.

You perceive that you are in some type of competition here Tom, and it's unfortunate. While I am a registered Democrat, my allegiance is to the candidate and his/her ethos. I like being able to vote in primaries, but that's as far as it goes. I'm looking for a progressive agenda, and I'll be damned if I won't primary a Democrat's sorry ass right out of office if they don't provide it.

It's my total willingness to cast off the D or R completely that makes you and I different Tom. Surely, I am much more prone to lean towards that D, but not because of some stupid need to get one over on you or the Republicans. It's because I want the country to move in a better direction and there are very very few Progressive Republicans.

Tom Alday said...

Really, "not about the party"? I find that odd coming from a guy that posts on his own blog nothing but hatred directed at Republicans, too funny. You can't all of a sudden develop some philosophy that's totally opposite of everything you've ever said here or on your own blog, that's some serious cognitive dissonance and a sign that you're desperately trying to right a ship you know is sinking. It's awfully convenient how once you guys start looking shaky and see the "They hate Obama because they're RACIST!" label isn't flying the narrative suddenly changes and now it's put forth that Republicans would rather engage in a politics than save "people's lives". It's pretty amazing how "saving people's lives" always coincides with whatever far left liberal agenda Democrats are pushing that election cycle. You can lament all you want about your dismay over the "us v them" mentality, but you contribute to it. The "hope and change" bullshit your guy ran on last year is dead and almost gone. He won't get a second term and all his little cronies in Congress are going to go along with him. Then we'll get back to governing the way it should be done.

How about saving people's jobs? With an unemployment rate over 10% nationwide and over 15% in a lot of states you would think stopping that would be more important than a power grab to take over a large portion of the economy and destroy private businesses. But nope, gotta push that liberal agenda at all costs, gotta make sure that the 13% of people not insured are properly cared for by nanny government, so what if they lost their job in the meantime. Also I find it odd that their idea of "helping people" is to fine them and throw them in jail if they choose not to get health insurance, aren't we all fucking adults, don't we have free will? But then again personal freedom and socialism never go hand in hand.

But really, it's all about helping people. yeah whatever.

As for your belief that the GOP is "wholly equipped with condemnation, superiority and frankly, stupidity" I have to laugh again. The guy that hails from a party that snidely chastises people for "not voting in their best interest" whenever they vote against liberal ideals has the balls to say the GOP has condemnation and superiority issues? fucking lol.

Ian McGibboney said...

And, once again, Joker Alday states his case without resorting to personal attacks or the kind of things you say when you're trying to convince yourself they're true.

Tom, I do agree with you on one thing: the mandatory insurance idea is a bad one, especially with the lack of a truly expansive public option. But that's an unfortunate by-product of the stigma that the right has put on universal health care. What we truly need is a single-payer health system. Instead, we have this watered-down bonanza for insurance companies because Obama and the blue-dog Democrats think compromising with obstructionist Republicans is preferable to standing up to them.

As for unemployment: There isn't a person in America who didn't expect this to get worse before it got better. It didn't start 11 months ago and is going to take more than 11 months to fix. Unemployment is a complex issue that can't be blamed entirely on Obama's policies, no matter how much your narrow mind wishes it could be.

As for your final dig at NOLA: If the GOP didn't have to lie about its platform to get votes, it probably wouldn't get many votes. It protects the rich and the entitled on the backs of the middle class and poor that it courts through patriotic, emotional and false pocketbook appeals.

Tom Alday said...

"There isn't a person in America who didn't expect this to get worse before it got better." Oh man don't make me laugh. Obama's own team said with his stimulus unemployment wouldn't go above 8% so we HAD to have it to save jobs. When the guy in charge gets it so spectacularly wrong it makes you, rightfully, question all his decisions and the direction he's taking us. That's not wrong or racist as your side like to portray it, that's common sense.

and really, complaining about people lying to get votes from a guy that backs Obama and his trail of broken campaign promises makes me lol.

NOLA Progressive said...

My response is a bit too long for a comment here so I posted it. Follow it if you will, I think this is a really important point and distinction we are hitting on.