Saturday, July 18, 2009

Walter Cronkite 1916-2009



15 comments:

TJENKINS said...

Is there one like this for every other news channel? Particularly MSNBC

Ian McGibboney said...

A case could be made for MSNBC, though I think Fox deserves its own special place in hell. It's watched by far more people, who take it much more at face value on account of their own prejudices and the network's facade of "fair and balanced." Also, only a Fox News-watching wingnut would suggest that one has to equally deride Fox News and MSNBC in the sake of fairness, when the opposite would never happen.

TJENKINS said...

Got it, Fox is worse because it's more popular. Doesn't make you guys sound jealous at all. I like how the more you loons deride them the more popular they get, they probably take great delight in the fact that that drives you idiots even more insane with rage.

Ian McGibboney said...

The success of Fox News is a testament to its need among Republicans: not only do right-wingers have an almost pathological need to be led and have their prejudices reinforced, but they also have an obsession with unnerving dissenters in the process. That's what Fox News, along with every other alternate-reality trope the right has built in its attempt to form its own facts, is all about: winning and bullying the opposition.

Cronkite knew the purpose of the news was to inform, not to entertain and/or preach to the tone-deaf choir. We got along much better as a nation when we could agree on the facts, and when it was about the country, not which side flexed more muscle and earned higher numbers.

TJENKINS said...

That first paragraph is incredibly funny coming from someone who frequents and defends places like DU and Daily Kos. When was the last time Olbermann had a conservative on anyway?

What's that old saying, something about glass houses and stones.

Ian McGibboney said...

As I say every time you pull this nonsense from your ass, I consume a variety of news sources and blogs, many of which are probably right at the top of your list as well. See, I can expose myself to a variety of viewpoints because I'm skeptical by nature. I do have my views, but I don't hold them because Keith Olbermann told me to. That's what sets me apart from your average Fox News viewer.

Moreover, a lot of sites/people that you hold up as my saviors actually make me cringe most of the time. DU is a pissing match, with more fighting than agreeing, and Olbermann can channel O'Reilly in his worst moments. This makes it entertaining, but in no way does it constitute the shameless dittoheading of the right.

TJENKINS said...

"See, I can expose myself to a variety of viewpoints because I'm skeptical by nature."

But not surprisingly all your posts carry the same talking points and straw men that a typical left wing blog/Countdown does. Contrary to what you may think Ian you are not unique, you're just another ultra liberal blogger regurgitating liberal memes fed to you by the same old sources.

Ian McGibboney said...

You know, Teej, if the right had anything to offer other than the same old disastrous issues, liberal-bashing and religious fanaticism, then maybe they would be 1 percent appealing to me. But they don't, so it isn't. I understand it's hard for your narrow mind to believe that beliefs are formed on anything other than TV hosts, Web sites and whatever your pastor and the Republican Party tells you to believe, but for some people that's the case.

In any case, I feel like I add something to the national conversation. You, Teej, add nothing, and I was frankly foolish to give you another chance to add something. But you're a broken record, so your trollish comments will no longer be accepted here. Go stink up someone else's blog, you useless, stupid coward.

Pete said...

My my that certainly is a childish response, how old are you?

Ian McGibboney said...

Old enough to know when to pull the plug on a non-productive conversation.

Pete said...

But apparently not old enough to realize that berating a guy you've hamstringed from responding does nothing but make you look like the "stupid coward".

Ian McGibboney said...

That's where you're wrong, Pete. I didn't ban the guy for disagreeing with me. Anyone who has an honest, intelligent opinion will be respected here. I banned TJenkins because of an almost non-stop assault of verbal abuse that has nothing to do with anything I write. As it is, I felt like I let him last here longer than I should have. People have already asked me why I didn't do it sooner. I don't like censoring thought of any kind, but it's trolls like TJenkins who make it necessary.

If you guys don't like my decision, then you can start your own blogs instead of hiding behind blank profiles and complain about it there.

NOLA Progressive said...

There is absolutely nothing wrong with Ian's decision. TJenkins is a moron and a vile person. He seeks issues that he can attempt to exploit just to anger otherwise civil individuals who seek to debate and engage in discourse.

He is full of anger, hate and immaturity. Ian owes none of us anything. Should he choose to refuse a comment that I post on his blog I accept that. I choose to be here. I understand that there are some basic rules of civility and humanity that must be adhered to if I enter a domain such as this and wish to contribute.

Also, the fact that Ian includes your berating comments and allows them to be posted speaks volumes.

If someone like Teej wants to spew his vomit, I will not argue his right to do so in a venue that he controls and is voluntarily entered, but damnit, it is about time that progressives stop tolerating ignorance, hate and right wing bullshit. It is ruining our society, and we should oppose such blatant abuses at any chance we get.

musing said...

You're a better man than I am, Gunga McGibboney! :D

I banned that snot at my place after his first diatribe. You put up with him for way longer than I did--and without noticeably losing your cool.

--Michael

Ian McGibboney said...

Thanks, guys. My past posts show a long history of informed discussion from a variety of viewpoints. Unfortunately, there's also been a lot of complete clowns with nothing constructive to say. The latter has accelerated since Inauguration Day.