Monday, July 16, 2007

Brought to you by the same minds behind 'No Child Left Behind'

The Young Republicans are the nation's largest political organization for Republicans between the ages of 18 and 40.

Yes, I would suppose so. I can't imagine the Old Democrats make much headway in that demographic. Though the Kneel Before Zod club probably does.

Why is the GOP so splintered anyway? Young Republicans, Black Republicans, Republican Women, Real Republicans, etc. It's as if they support segregation or something!

The Democrats have women and blacks too...but they run for president.


Nick said...

Women's National Democratic Club

DNC Black Caucus

Don't forget, the NAACP (do we need an NAAWP?) is a Democrat thing-tank.

Young Democrats

Ian McGibboney said...

I suppose you're trying to be clever by showing me that Democrats have splintered factions. Yes, I know they do. And I'd like to see both parties bring people into the thick of the action as early as possible.

The difference between the two parties with respect to their splintered factions is that, whereas the most prominent Democratic factions are about protecting the concerns of underrepresented voices (minorities, young people, women) and bringing them into prominence, the GOP factions seem to be about segregating those same voices and marginalizing them:

1) How many actual Black Republicans are there in Congress?

2) How has the Republican Women's mission to "recruit and train women for public office and other leadership roles" strengthened female conservative leadership at a national level?

3) Why are the College Republicans some of the most insulated students out there, and continue to fight the academic establishment as if it were the Soviet Union?

Is it an accident that the Republican Party, for all its claims of diversity, is run almost entirely by older, conservative white men? Whatever their intentions, this fact makes their groups look like sideshows. And I suspect that's exactly what they want.

Cajun Tiger said...

I'm assuming you mean minds like Ted Kennedy? Not sure what he has to do with Repub groups, but whatever works for ya.

Ian McGibboney said...

I don't follow what you're saying, Cajun Tiger, unless you think that Ted Kennedy is a conservative. My point is that older white men don't have a monopoly on Democratic politics. They're running at about 80 percent, which is high but still runs circles around the GOP.

Cajun Tiger said...

Ted Kennedy was the mind behind NCLB so I guess I'm the one not following your analogy.

Ian McGibboney said...

Well, whoever's behind it, it's idiotic. And I don't exactly remember Bush deferring any credit for it to anyone else.

Cajun Tiger said...

I'm pretty sure Kennedy was front and center at the signing ceremony, but I may be wrong on that one. One thing we definitely agree on in that it was idiotic.

Ian McGibboney said...

You're right. In fact, I used that picture as a Caption Central a few years back. No Child Left Behind, despite Kennedy's involvement, is a linchpin of the Bush administration. The GOP bragged about it for years and don't get to push it away now that states are trying to opt out of it. And your presupposition that I'm going to backpedal because Ted Kennedy is involved says more about you than about me.

I never like NCLB, even when it fashionable to do so. I hated it more even when the ultraconservative school board I used to cover expressed severe desperation over its failure to meet the goals, even as scores had soared in just one year.

Also, its requirements not only disallowed me from being a teacher despite having a master's degree (and a major need for teachers in my subject area), it also cut off the program that would have allowed me to work toward certification while I taught.

So, to hell with it.

Cajun Tiger said...

I was never in the camp that liked it and have always said it was one of Bush's worst moments.

I only brought up Kennedy b/c of your title for this post containing "minds" as he was the author of the bill. As far as claiming credit, the President always gets the credit or the blame for legislation he signs, but we both know this was his attempt at trying to play nice with the other side when he first got into office.

Ian McGibboney said...

All I know is, you're the very first person I've ever heard referring to NCLB as Ted Kennedy's baby. Then again, I don't listen to talk radio.

Glad you see it for what it is, at least. But if NCLB was a reluctant compromise on Bush's part, then what was his plan? Given his advocacy of results-based education, I can't imagine how it could have been much different.

Cajun Tiger said...

Don't remember what his pre-election education plan was, but anything short of getting rid of the Dept. of Ed and turning over all education duties and responsiblities to the states, I would not have supported it which is probably where our agreement on this topic ends.