Thursday, March 22, 2007

Short and snappy

Rule #38: Dis Belief

Global warming is not a belief. Neither is evolution. Or abortion. Or welfare. Or any other tangible phenomenon that conservatives attempt to dismiss because they're inconvenient truths.

If it can be measured with a meter, captured with a photograph, held in your hands or can be made into a much-too-graphic video for exploitative purposes, it's not a belief; it's an issue. And no amount of wishing, hoping or denial will change anything. Only action will.

And that's my belief.


Donnie McDaniel said...


Cajun Tiger said...

Just because something is an issue doesn't mean it is a fact. Why when stating their "case" for human caused global warming it is always said that a consensus of scientist agree. Why not all the facts agree...because they don't so instead they state their beliefs.

Ian McGibboney said...

I'm talking about confusing scientific method with belief. Belief is something you have to take on faith. I hear it all the time from the fundies: "The Bible is fact!" There's no empirical way to prove it, no rigorous method of experimentation and analysis, no chance that new findings will prove past findings wrong or incomplete. Instead, we're given this book and told, "Everything in this book is the ultimate truth. Don't question a word of it, ever." And because a billion people have reached a consensus on that, it's supposed to hold weight.

These are the same people who want to quantify scientific facts the same way. They want to say that evolution, the greenhouse effect, etc. are one of two things: true or false. And they choose to believe that it's false. Makes it easier to dismiss.

But you can't accept or dismiss these things as you would a belief, which is the beauty of the scientific method. And why we know anything about these issues at all.

Cajun Tiger said...

If only those who hold to the beliefs (they are still only scientific theories not law as some would try to have us believe despite many years of scientific testing) of evolution and global warming followed the scientific method then that argument would hold more weight.

Ian McGibboney said...

A theory is different than a belief. Scientists don't claim to know the absolute truth about the causes of global warming and evolution, but they do know a few things. And what they don't know they are working toward knowing. And, because evolution and global warming are theories (as opposed to beliefs), they can be documented with empirical evidence. It might take a long time, but it's getting done.

And that holds far more weight with me than those who deny such theories on the basis that the Bible says those things can't happen.

Cajun Tiger said...

Well one thing you will almost never hear me say is that the Bible says it and that's all I need to know. I do trust the Bible to be completely accurate, but that faith is also routed in proofs both scientifically and historically. I constantly look for ways to prove the Bible is accurate in a measurable way and there are many ways that it is.

Now if the more scientists were honest about their beliefs over the proof and evidence in especially evolution then you would have a point. However too many times scientists in the absence of facts allow their beliefs to trump the evidence which takes way more faith than most Christians will ever have in the Bible.