Friday, March 24, 2006

Good news, part two

Though I've never mentioned it previously on this blog, I have been in the running for a particular job for the past two months, one which I had first applied for last summer. It represented the main chance I had to have a real job here.

Last night I was informed that I didn't get it. Yep, on Friday night.

"This was one time where experience mattered," they said to me, referring to the person who was "better." Well, isn't that nice! It's good to know that experience can theoretically be attained someplace. It's hard to get (official) experience when no one wants to give you a chance to prove yourself. Does no one else see the catch-22 in that?

Of course, my resume will be kept on file. I was once dumped by a girl like that: "I'm getting back together with my ex-boyfriend, but if it doesn't work out then maybe we can get back together." Yeah, right. See ya!

Just like with the last post, there isn't any good news. There never is, it seems.


rhonda said...

sorry about the bad news, and i'm also sorry that i'm terrible at keeping in touch. i miss you and hope to hear from you soon

Nick said...

"It's hard to get (official) experience when no one wants to give you a chance to prove yourself."

Icon, that is very much the same way I felt in my job hunting. They told me they were looking for more experienced workers, and I responded with the same, "How in the hell am I supposed to get the experience you want if you, or no one else, will give me a chance?"

I think that is one of the big problems these days. Business owners don't want to take chances on young people unless they have experience, so if you were a college athlete like me, or you worked part-time job, like yourself, then you had no time to get experience. Well, how do you get experience if no one gives you a chance?

I guess it's like the chicken and the egg. It's a cycle that goes round and round, and where does the begining (leverage) really start?

Don't give up dude. Just keep looking, and eventually you will find the job to get you stared. Besides, I hear the newspaper media is looking for more liberals by the minute!!

Ian McGibboney said...

If anything, this should prove that your last statement is wholly untrue.

Second, I'm not just starting out. I've been in the business for four years, albeit in a slightly different capacity.

Third, you're right about businesses. It's as if you only have a small window in college, and if you don't seize it then, it will never happen. That's horrible.

Cajun Tiger said...

In the political world and media world it has been my experience you have to volunteer (intern) to show you are worthy. That was my way in and it has worked great so far.

Not sure if you have tried an internship yet, but that might be the way you have to go. It does significantly hurt the finances, but if it is the only way in, you have to get your foot in the door.

Nick said...

No, my last statement is true. Eventually, you will find a smart business owner who realizes that, by investing in you, they can bring you up and mold you into an intergal part of their company.

I got my internship by going to a big national oil & gas convention in Houston, specifically geared towards landmen being able to network. I must have talked to reps. of at least 50-70 companies looking for an internship, as that was a requirement in my major to graduate. Two of them gave me serious consideration for an internship, due to having no experience (ain't that what an internship is supposed to do?), one of them being the president of the company I work for now, OGM Land. Two years ago, OGM was looking to expand so they were aggressive wanted to get some young people in there to train to do business their way. They paid me $175/day plus travelling expenses that summer before my last semester, which made me wonder if I even needed to bother finishing college!! But they told me I had to go back. And besides, Coach Timmy was counting on me for my last cross country season, and I hadn't run 100 miles/week that summer for nothing.

Now, OGM has become probably the biggest oil broker in East Texas with workers from various states, which is due to them wanting to be aggressive in hiring.

I guess what I'm saying is that, probably mostly through luck as was much of the case for me, you just need to find (stumble upon) the right business that is looking to expand. One thing about good business owners, they don't like hiring or keeping stale people. They don't want people who have been in a certain field and have become accustomed to working 4 hrs./day, and producing crappy work at that. They would rather hire someone young, with little experience, who doesn't yet know how to cheat and milk the system, so that they can teach that young person how the business procedures and practices are run. That's probably going to be the business owner most likely to give you your shot, one who can train you their way.

JTekell said...

I feel your pain. I have organizational change but not selection experience which prevents me from getting selection jobs. But my organizational change experience isn't the standard 5yrs they're looking for either. The job market is screwy everywhere you go. I'm in month 4 of the job search and still no serious job offers in sight. Keep on keepin on.

Ian McGibboney said...

Nick/CT, I appreciate the input. However, I can see that it's based on what little you know about my experience and the circumstances. I haven't and won't get into them on this blog. But I will say this:

1) I did an internship four years ago, which was a requirement for my curriculum. It was an unpaid position and a long commute. I worked as much as 33 hours a week (even though the requirement was 15), and I did as much, if not more, than the other reporters. I was offered a full-time job not long into that internship, though I chose graduate school instead. I figure that, after seven years of higher education and five years of journalistic expereince, I have a right to work that actually pays. Otherwise, what's the point?

2) The position I applied for is generally staffed by recent college graduates or those otherwise consistent with my experience. In fact, I was told that they liked me because I was willing to work with them and do what I needed to do to grow with them. Until someone with a better resume came along, of course. I lost to a piece of paper.

3) If you guys would like to chip in to pay for a convention trip, that would be great. Because money, like luck, is not on my side.

Tekell, you're right on the money. Or should I say, non-money.

Nick said...

Well, as for the convention I attended, UL-Lafayette paid for the trip. The Professional Land & Resource MGMT program at UL has alot of money at its disposal, or did when I was there, due to a big piece of land near Bayou Teche that was donated to the program by Cheveron. Therefore, the program was receiving money from oil leases and farming leases. With only 4 or 5 graduates per semester, at the most, the program has few things to spend money on, so every year the program's students set up a booth and attend NAPE (North American Petroleum Expo) in Houston. The program picked up the tab for hotel, gas, food, and other fees.

Personally, I think that is one of the best things a university program can do. Pay for it serious, interested upperclassmen to attend a big, once a year convention related to their field where networking can take place. How would UL fund it? Well, they could start by not wasting money on an unnecessary parking garage and useless arcs at entrances of the school, neither of which is currently helping graduates enter the job market.

Ian McGibboney said...

Well, that just goes to show you the benefits of a well-funded educational program. In liberal arts, we had to pay for absolutely everything, and most of the activities were well out of my price range. It's hard, albeit not impossible, to overcome that. I think I did pretty well for how I did it, though. At least a the time.

Michael said...

Sorry to hear it, Ian.