Wednesday, February 15, 2006

Fun with facebook discussions

Facebook, for those of you who don't know, is a college networking site. One of the student groups is called, "George W. Bush is the Freakin' Man." What follows are real comments from University of Louisiana group members:

City officials announced the Houston Hurricane Evacuation Plan:
Hispanics use I-10 West to San Antonio
Cajuns use I-10 East to Lafayette
Rednecks use 59 North to East Texas
Republicans fly Continental to Washington DC
Liberals and Democrats use 45 South to Galveston


Kanye West is an amazing musician. I guess he failed to realize that being on national TV means that the nation will see you. The thoughts that he portrayed on TV were unacceptable. He has millions, he takes 4 showers a day, and isn't in the flood waters where HIS PEOPLE are raping, killing, and trying to start their own form of government. The looting isn't about a black and white thing. BAN KANYE WEST! Make him pay for his actions.

When will intolerant liberals like XXXX XXXX be sane enough to make rational decisions without the help of mental health care professionals? People like him almost make me wish that the first amendment didn't exist. [...] I hope you have a miserable 4 MORE years of the Dubya! By the way, XXXX XXXX, vandalism is NOT free speech as much as you'd like to believe so. So, just let me catch you doing anything to ANYBODY'S vehicle with a Bush sticker on it. My rich, republican, suv-driving ass will run your ignorant, eye-brow pierced, punk ass over with my gas-guzzler.

Maybe if west coast liberal hippies wouldn't bitch about oil drilling in the Pacific, then our gas prices wouldn't be so high and we'd have more oil to use.

XXXX, you're a fucking moron. you probably think that having sadaam in power is a good thing, i mean he only killed millions of his own people. or better yet, we should just sit back and let another terriorist attack happen. we shouldn't go take the war to them. let's let them come fuck us up on our own land. go to hell XXXX XXXX. there must be some flower power rally for you to go to


LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING FUCK FACE, it aint my fault that we rich ppl come from the up side of the world. you poor bitches aint ever gonna get outta poverty b/c you dopnt know how. Just because we "rich" ppl are replublican doesnt mean you have to fuck up our shit. And thank God for PPL like BUSH that dont tax the rich, b/c thats what keeps the money rollin in. I"LL RUN YOU OVER WITH MY HUMVEE BITCH, IT MIGHT BE A GAS GUZZLER BUT MY RICH ASS CAN FUCKIN AFFORD IT, OH WAIT I GET IT FOR FREE ( HALLIBURTON RULZ )

It sounds like the threats are going bothways. Your the idiot who lives in a mostly conservative society and actually trying to impose/defend your beliefs on us. Move to hollywood with the 10 other liberals in this country. If you socialism so much move to a socialist society. Reminder--->this is a democracy. It's great that your passionate about your beliefs, but your wasting your breath. You sound like every other person who voted for Kerry.

Yeah man, GW is the only president who has the guts to say what he means and how is faith is put into the white house. George Bush is the only one that can turn this country around into the right direction. I will always support GW and i know that he is put in office twice for a reason.

I totally agree...but two terms does not necissarily have anything to do with being good. I mean, look at the joke who came before him.

PVT XXX here, i fell what you man i go threw that crap every day at (that is making them fill as stupid as possable for being some left-wing crackhead) school......just waiting for my number to come up and ill more then willing to send those ragheads to hell.

Well, who the fuck are you?? You should be so lucky as to have such a great man in office, someone who's not a sell-out nor an ass-kisser. The dude's got freakin balls. He does what he knows needs to be done. And I've got another thing for any of you other snotty lieberal little fucks who may be posting on a message board that's not yours. Check this out people! I drove home from Lafayette yesterday afternoon, and I got out of my truck and saw that somebody at school had keyed my truck. They keyed "FUCK BUSH" into my mother fucking hood! Boy I tell you, the snotty cocksucking faggot little liberal fuck is lucky he still has a nutsack, because God only knows what I would have done had I come out there and caught him in the act. That's the biggest load of bullshit I have ever seen. You'd figure the people who don't know any better would keep their mouths shut, but they don't. They are here in America in their own safe little bubbles where no harm can come to them. Only, what they don't realize is that people are putting their asses on the line and keeping the wolf at bay over in the middle east so that they can stay safe. I've never felt safer than when I came back to the CONUS. It was such a great feeling. But our country is only as free as we make it, or well as free as the people who are willing to make it. Meanwhile, we've got little Joey Dumbfuck at school carving shit into my hood. Well fuck him then. If he wants to get blown up or be speaking Arabic, then he can go right the hell ahead! Get the fuck out of my country if you don't like it here mother fucker, and stop wasting our damn time. I've had way too many buddies die to keep this person's ass safe to be putting up with this shit.

And, as a bonus for your attention span, here are some select comments from the equally humble group, "Republicans are Better Looking than Democrats":

I just got back from Oregon and man... SO MANY KERRY FANS!!! I only saw a few non-butch, make up wearing, great bodied people.. and they all said.. 1. They are from the South and 2. They are Republicans.. I only saw one hot Democrat.. and that was my best friend from Elementary School.. so she can pass.. but she IS from the south.. :) So SOUTHERN REPUBLICANS are WAY HOTTER than ANY DEMOCRAT.. period.

At the inauguration parade this year it was easy to tell apart the protesting democrats from the republicans. Seriously, the protestors were all wearing rags and looking like they hadnt showered in months. However, the republicans all looked very nice and clean and civilized. We aren't making this up just b/c we're republicans, we REALLY do look better!!

My Great Grandma is a republican... but I actually heard her describe Al Gore as, "an attractive young man. That is a handsome man," she says. What the geratol was she thinking!?

as my friend chris says, if you dont care about presidents, atleast vote for who has better looking daughters. god, kerry's daughters look like horses.

Is it any wonder why it's so hard to write satire these days?


Flamingo Jones said...

I still challenge anyone to find me 5 hot republican men. You can't do it, I'm tellin' you.

Even if they're mildly attractive, they make comments like that first batch...and then they might as well be horribly disfigured, as far as I'm concerned.

Ian McGibboney said...

Ann Coulter is a pretty hot Republican man.

Flamingo Jones said...

And orange juice JUST shot out of my nose.

Thanks Ian.

How sexy is THAT?

Ian McGibboney said...

The C in vitamin C stands for "sexy," you know.

jenny said...


i totally love the second yellow one. remember ian --> this is a democracy. :D

and for being college students they sure are coherent, use a wide range of vocabulary and spell great.


Nick said...

Wow, almost as bad as Democrat Underground. Of course, at least this college group isn't hoping someone dies from gunshot wounds so that the VP can be kicked out of office or hoping the victim dies b/c he is a contributor to the Republican Party. Then again, I'm sure if you looked are enough you could probably find one of them saying that next time Hillary should go hunting w/ Dick or something of that sort.

The leftist southpaw said...

I'm not hoping Mr. Whittington dies.

I'm content to know that Mr. Cheney is only the second VP to shoot someone while in office- and the first one was tried for treason later on in life.

Can history repeat itself? Sit tight.

Flamingo Jones said...

I'm not hoping for Mr. Whittington to die either. And I don't believe I've ever used slurs like the above ones to describe ANYBODY.

Nick said...

Yes, but Flamingo, I'm not reffering to you. You have respect for others that goes beyond political views, at least I think. What Icon did is exactly what I can do, find a website that houses conservative, liberal, whatever view points and pick out the loons who contantly post hatred and crazy tin-foil hat theories.

Ian McGibboney said...

Nick, the difference between my citations and yours is that you purposefully find the most extreme elements of DU, whereas I have posted literally 90 to 95 percent of these two discussion threads. In other words, you're equating a fraction of the liberal discourse with virtually EVERYTHING these students are saying.

Jester said...

Or so you claim, anyway.

Ian McGibboney said...

The only reason I haven't linked to the forum is because it is password-accessible only. I assure you, though, that I left out only a few "me too" or "ha ha" quotes, a couple of apolitical school announcements and two or three of uninteresting comments by a libertarian who likes to be a pain in the ass.

The Goblin Slayer said...

the most extreme elements of DU

In the eyes of most beholders, DU is always extreme.

Ian McGibboney said...

I love it when far-right-wingers claim to speak for "most" people. I'm no apologist for DU, but neither do I think that it's any worse than Free Republic. Both are echo chambers that I don't think represent the national mainstream.

Nick said...

Yes, I tried to view the forum only to find that I'm not allowed to. Icon, you are trying to imply that these statements represent 99% of conservative thought, and that is flat out wrong. There is just as much hatred and arrogance on the left as on the right. And besides, visiting a forum made up of a bunch of college kids, most of whom were 18 or 19 yrs., isn't exactly the best place to find the most intellegent opinions. That's almost as bad as seeking out political opinions from MTV viewers.

Ian McGibboney said...

All right, Nick. Well, let's look at most of the comments from the other side. From the forum, "Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kerry":

Wow, I was very impressed with seeing Kerry in BR. He really reaffirmed my good feelings about him. He talked about starting a grass roots movement to provide federally funded healthcare to everyone under 21 years of age. He would use the money ($32 billion from Bush's permanent tax cut to the richest 1% or 2% of Americans) for the healthcare. I encourage you to read more about this (the news reports should be more accurate than I am). Again, I was very impressed. He seemed down to earth and was kind enough to stop and chat/sign autographs/ take photos for the people (including myself) who were at the townhall meeting. Oh, and another thing... the audience members of this meeting were not carefully screened & didn't have to sign a pledge of loyalty unlike the tactics of the "winner".

We will definately be in the minority ....this is a very conservative town. Go Blanco.

Good thing we have Bush, a real man that knows how to go to war. wait a minute, i thought democracy was about creating harmony. i thought democracy was about allowing others to believe what they want. Good thing we have a president that can teach us that democracy is really about conquering smaller countries to make himself and friends a little more money. all i ask is that you do your research before you make a statement about anything concerning politics. as we say in ny, "go f*ck yourself"

Wow! Honest discussion of the issues, maybe one snarky reference and no threats to other students, profanity-laced diatribes, racial or economic slurs or smugness. I'd cite more, but there isn't much more beyond the same one-line "me too" statements. Oh, wait, there WAS one comment like that:

haha i didnt vote for kerry because hes a complete retard. a piece of sh*t can make up its mind before kerry could. An wat was wit his purple harts, wat a puss. A real patriot ha. halloween wuz yesterday kerry was frankenstein

Should we count the troll? Might as well.

Even the group called, "Dubya is a Fuckin' Moron," has only a link to a Google video, an unanswered question about Bush's appointments and a sigh of relief that Louisiana has a few liberals in it.

And yes, it IS important to consider college-age students, because they are the most sought-after voting demographic and their thoughts represent the future of our political system.

Nick said...

Fine Icon, you are right. The left is purely clean of loons and idiots. Meanwhile, the right in nothing but vile racists and homophobes who all got wealthy through either inheritance or the stock market. What a load.

Nick said...

You can find equal hatred and nastiness on both sides if looking for it.

Ian McGibboney said...

Just like you can conclude whether the press is conservative or liberal based on your sources and research methods, right?

Nick said...

I never argued the press was liberal or conservative with the post I put up. All I argued is that Fox News isn't the Repub. propaganda machine that many on the left claim it is, just as the same study also found that NPR and CNN aren't the liberal propaganda that many on the right claim. I didn't leave out that portion of the study in my posting either.

The point is you're taking some ingnorant posters on a forum and trying to paint them as representing 99% of conservatives which is just plain false.

Ian McGibboney said...

Then why can't the decent college conservatives stand up and say, "Hey, we need to end the immaturity and focus on the important issues. Telling people they suck and that we're going to hurt them is making us look bad?" And while they're at it, tell Ann Coulter to stop baiting Arabs, Bill O'Reilly to stop calling for al-Qaida to bomb San Francisco, Jerry Falwell to stop asking God to harm Pennsylvania and Michael Savage to quit wishing AIDS on gays.

The reason these comments ring so true to me is because I'm not seeing anything replacing it.

Nick said...

1) Bill O'Reilly never called for Al Quada to bomb San Fran. Again, you don't even check out the places where you get your info. I was in MS, listening to O'Reilly's show during all that whole comotion. He NEVER called for any violence against anyone.

2) Jerry Falwell, Ann Coulter, Michael Savage, how about Al Franken, Michael Moore and Ward Churchill. They all preach hatred for their sides that is not accepted by mainstream right or left.

Those commets you decided to pull ring all true? Have I preached racism? Have I preached homophobia, whatever that means? Please fill me in with your all knowing knowledge.

Nick said...

And Flamingo, to respond to your first comment, thought this may sound pretty arrogant, I am a conservative, if you haven't figured that out already. And yet, I've never had a real problem finding a date, exscept for at the preppy high school I went to, but even there I wasn't given too much trouble.

Nick said...

So it is possible that maybe, conservatives can be attractive. Then again, I'm no longer looking, so what do I know.

Ian McGibboney said...

1) Though O'Reilly's official transcript allegedly glosses over the quote, this is how the San Francisco Chronicle quoted the passage, via MSNBC:

"And if al-Qaida comes in here and blows you up, we're not going to do anything about it. We're going to say, look, every other place in America is off limits to you, except San Francisco. You want to blow up the Coit Tower? Go ahead," O'Reilly continued, referring to the 1933 San Francisco landmark that sits atop Telegraph Hill.

2) I do not equate Michael Moore and Al Franken to Ann Coulter and Michael Savage. I've consumed virtually every book the four of them have produced (as hard as that was at times) and they barely begin to compare. I would take the works of Moore and Franken any day over the vituperative, excessively dry, hateful and self-aggrandizing tones of Coulter and Savage. This isn't to say that I think the first two are necessarily always accurate; but they at least seem more interested in revealing facts and exposing hypocrisy than Coulter, Savage and their ilk, who seem determined to rid America of everyone they deem different than them. As for Ward Churchill? He probably IS the equivalent of Ann Coulter, though not on the left. He's just nihilistic, I think.

3) You're taking this personally. If you're so sure I'm not describing you, then you shouldn't be concerned. However, I will remind you that you have frequently called for excessively violent punishments for suspected criminals, and that Larry Flynt deserved to be shoved down a flight of stairs.

4) Flamingo is referring to an inner ugliness that pervades many conservatives, that often negates any other attractive qualities.

Jester said...

"Both are echo chambers that I don't think represent the national mainstream" -- Thank you for making your point clear here, Ian. This may come as a shock, but I completely agree with you.

Nick said...

I have called for violent punishment for child rapists and murderers, which they deserve. I guess I am guitly of hatred of scum. My 12 yr. old cousin was beaten and strangled to death on a day where she was just sitting at the computer in my aunt's trailer. So yeah, I do have hatred for POS who provide nothing to our society except violence against others.

Larry Flynt used the murder of Lacy Peterson and her unborn baby to make money off of nude pictures of Amber Fry. So yeah, at that time, he certainly did deserve to have his weelchair, with him in it, nuded down a flight of stairs, as long her didn't die from it.

"Many families have been devastated tonight. This just is not right. They did not deserve to die. If someone did this to get back at Bush, then they did so by killing thousands of people who DID NOT VOTE for him! Boston, New York, DC, and the planes' destination of California--these were places that voted AGAINST Bush!" --Michael Moore,, September 12

Now, maybe I'm taking this quote wrong, though I don't think I am, but it seems to me Moore is saying that 9/11 would have been better if the attacks killed only Bush voters, which in my opinion ranks right up there with Coulter saying that liberals should be in prisons or whatever she said. But hey, it's all satire. Yall love satire when it attacks the right, but God forbid satire that goes the other way.

Flamingo Jones said...

I asked for FIVE Nick.

And I asked for men specifically because
a) Purely selfish straight-girl reasons
b) Attractive conservative women are easier to come by.

Even if I take you at your word, that makes it you and Magnum P.I. (the only Republican man I've ever loved....and I was five.)

Flamingo Jones said...

And yes, I think you're taking the Moore quote wrong. He's pointing out (poorly, admittedly) the senselessness of the act, not calling for Bush voters to be killed.