Wednesday, December 08, 2004

Seen on a bathroom wall


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14 comments:

The Manning Report said...

Liberals are SO original.

Murph said...

Yeah, I have a feeling that whoever wrote the most original of bathroom wall writings, "Bubba is God on Mars" (as seen at Nick's Bar in NOLA) was a libertarian.

oyster said...

I like it, I like it a lot.

I've been doing a little bit of research on white power sites, and some are fond of flags with a prominent "W" on them (with a crown and halo above, usually).

Interesting similarities to the "W" design, too be sure. It would be hilarious to see if one or the other could infiltrate a GOP or White Power event unnoticed. Or even, gasp, with an explicit approval.

Phillip said...

I always love some Tommy Tutone bathroom art. Never an outdated reference I say.

And really, whoever wrote "F the President" didn't specify which president they were talking about... University president? Putin? Key Club? Specifics needed.

Ian McGibboney said...

I think they're referring to Katie Ortego. She's the president of the Student Government Association at UL.

Or maybe it's Jimmy Smits...

Rob Guillory said...

I want to comment on Mr. Manning's previous post "Liberals are SO original." In fact, I want to reply to the issue of using "labels" in general.

Mr. Manning, I get the feeling that you're of the type that would choose to broadly generalize a group of individuals, like Liberals, as being of one type. "Liberals are SO original," for example. I've heard this type of broad-sweeping flattening of colors into black and white and use of labels (on both political sides) for some time now, as we all have since the moment that post-911 patriotism and unity wore off. From the moment someone had the balls to stand up and question the decisions of the People-in-Charge post-911, that person and people like that person have been labeled "unpatriotic". That has not changed in the years since, as "liberal" and "conservative" have been continuously used as a way to say "those assholes that WE are better than." Instead of being used as terms of classification, it's now derogatory.

That type of phrasing has been around for quite some time, Mr. Manning. And next time you, or anyone that reads this, feel the need to reduce things to matters of labels rather than actually having rational discussion without insult in an attempt to come to solutions that might actually solve the issue, please ask yourself this question:

How is your use of "liberal" or "conservative" ANY more intelligible that the way the word "nigger" was used once upon a time? Think about that.

The Manning Report said...

First off I think this whole article was meant to be fun, crack a joke, aka. humor kind of thing. If it wasn't meant to be, my bad. My remarks were made sarcastically and in fun, but I guess that doesn't come across to some people.

I don't really find myself calling people unpatriotic very often. If I am watching t.v. one day, and I see people saying they are gonna flee to Canada cause America is stupid, I might call them unpatriotic. I might call them lunatics as well, but thats their personal choice. I would call Cpl. Wassef Ali Hassoun unpatriotic for deserting his country in the middle of a war and pretending to be kidnapped. I would call Jeremy Hinzman unpatriotic for fleeing to Canada to escape from going to war. I would call Edward Lee Pitts unpatriotic for not having the balls to ask the Secretary of Defense a question and getting some soldiers to ask it for him. I would call Michael Moore unpatriotic for releasing Fahrenheit 9-11 during a time of war and election. And then going on Barbra Walters most fascinating people of 2004 and saying, I didn't expect people to watch the film and that it couldn't have changed the election.

I really don't have a problem with you calling me a conservative. As a matter of fact you can address me as The Conservative if you want. You could even put it in big bold letters like this, THE CONSERVATIVE. When I call Ian a liberal, I usually don't mean, "those assholes that WE are better than." But maybe thats what you call me, which in that case, I don't care.

I would think Ian wouldn't mind being called a liberal, cause thats what he is. I don't think he would shy away from it. What's there to be afraid of, when you are called a liberal? I don't think its derogatory.

Using liberal or conservative is quite different by the means of calling someone a nigger. You can only mean something derogatory when you call someone a nigger, there are no nice complements that come with nigger. At least thats what I think.

Oh yea, your columns suck. I hope you get fired.

Ian McGibboney said...

Rob, he must know you're black.

"I would call Michael Moore unpatriotic for releasing Fahrenheit 9-11 during a time of war and election."

You couldn't help it, could you, Manning?

The Manning Report said...

Yea I couldn't help it, I knew you would get a kick out of that.

Rob Guillory said...

I think you missed the boat a bit.
I'm saying it's the meaning behind the words you call them that defines the word. When you change its connotations, you change its meaning. If you think that Bush repeating "He's the most liberal guy in the Senate" was meant as a complement, you're kidding me. The word was reduced to a four-letter one in the 04 Presidential election for the purposes of branding all that they attached it to, killing their credibility. If you prefer an illustration of that, try this:
"He's a Massachusetts liberal! While I, on the other hand, have CONSERVATIVE values."
See how one word is plugged into another? It's the implication that changes the word's meaning.
It's a game of spin that is only empowered by dividing groups of people and turning them against each other rather than sharing ground and pooling resources to solve problems (what a premise). There's no difference between saying "democrats are all the same" and "black people are all the same." Both are broad-sweeping statements that only work to draw lines between humanity, getting nothing productive done whatsoever. The only difference is that only one is considered politically-allowed. Imagine if Kerry was as cunning in the use of this as Bush's spin doctors were, calling. We'd be even more of a "country divided" than we already are (amazing as it may sound).

Oh, and don't sweat the "my-column-sucking" comment. I think your blog is pathetic and only informed by what Bill O'Reilly spoon-feeds you. So I think we're about even.

The Manning Report said...

I don't think I missed the boat at all, maybe your on the wrong ship.

Calling Kerry the most liberal senator in the senate should have been a complement to Kerry because thats what he is. If that somehow diminishes Kerry's credibility, thats his problem. He should have voted a better record if he did not want the brand. If I was a liberal I would run on my Liberal values, which by the way, Kerry did not want to be known for. If Kerry takes offense to being called a Liberal that is in no way a problem to Bush.

I know my blog sucks, I didn't really need anyone to tell me that. And for the part about Oreilly. I haven't watched tv in like 2 weeks, and even when I watch tv I don't watch Oreilly. What column could possibly come from Oreilly, cause I usually just write most of that stuff off the top of my head. I actually don't like Oreilly that much, never have and never will. I mean where you could you possibly come up with Oreilly, you don't know me, I never talk about the guy, and you don't know me, or have ever talked to me.

I guess I'll be "looking" for your column next semester.

Ian McGibboney said...

Philosophical Question: How can Kerry be both the most liberal member of the Senate AND a flip-flopper?

The Manning Report said...

I voted for the war in Iraq, before I voted against it.

Ian McGibboney said...

Okay...can you say anything original or least even slightly inspiring or thought-provoking? Hell, I'll even accept an explanation of what that famous quote means as proof that you just aren't some low-rent partisan parrot.