Thursday, October 07, 2004

Finally! A reminder of 9/11!

The following pictures came courtesy of my friend who is really into tearful e-mail forwards and religious-right politics. In my infinite wisdom I irretrievably erased the text of the message, which contained the names and location of the people who did this up. Believe it not, I think it's a nice and necessary (not to mention artistic) gesture. Only one thing ruins it, and I might be giving it away by noting that the truck's drivers got to meet Darryl Worley:









Philosophical questions:
--If you can read these names, are you too close?
--If someone were to crash into this truck, could they be arrested for sedition?
--Is anyone going to create one of these for the dead/injured soldiers and civilians in Iraq? Or will that be too small for a mere 18-wheeler?



Yep! The whole point of these murals is to question the patriotism of those who refuse to let our leaders use these names to justify their global conquest.

The doves are a nice touch, though... guess irony didn't die that day after all.

11 comments:

Hegemon said...

"Yep! The whole point of these murals is to question the patriotism of those who refuse to let our leaders use these names to justify their global conquest."

Nice case of what is classically refered to as Martyr Syndrome. And "global conquest"? get a freaking clue. I think David Frum summed up all this liberal talk about empires and global conquest quite nicely with this:

"The last thing America is, is an empire. My counter example is; we very badly needed and expected to have Turkish support in the war on Iraq. The Turks didn’t give it and that put a spanner in some of our planning. Now, imagine if this were the Romans. Imagine if the emperor Trajan were planning an operation in Mesopotamia and the Cappadocians told him he couldn’t use their territory. He would have lined the highways with crucified Cappadocians. That’s what empires do, they do not say, “Oh, we’ll respect what your parliament says and come from another direction”.

Learn some fucking perspective before you spout off the latest DU tripe.

Ian McGibboney said...

Too funny, Tom. TOO funny!

You accuse me of "spout[ing] off the latest DU tripe," yet I obviously did not do that. These pictures came from the e-mail of a conservative friend, and the commentary is entirely my own. And yet, you fill the bulk of your comment with a quote from another person! A very ridiculous quote at that, in which we're supposed to beleive that the United States is the good guy because we don't kill everyone who disagrees with us. Moronic and yet, supremely hypocritical. It's YOU who needs to express your own thoughts, Tom.

The Manning Report said...

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The Manning Report said...

Ian has a problem not listening to other people's opinion. The second he hears any hint of a conservative, he throws his hands to his ears and screams. He is willing to throw a spin on a picture, but hes not willing to admit his candidate is a gutless pig. How do you explain a Kerry's views when they change like a fart in the wind. I'll be glad when Kerry loses and he can go back to getting his manicures in between senate sessions after Ted Kennedy flips another car in a river.

Ian McGibboney said...

"Ian has a problem not listening to other people's opinion. The second he hears any hint of a conservative, he throws his hands to his ears and screams."

No, I don't do this, but a lot of conservatives I know do. If this were the case, why would I leave your comments on instead of just deleting them like some conservative sites do when I comment?

"He is willing to throw a spin on a picture, but hes not willing to admit his candidate is a gutless pig."

As I've said time and again on this site, I am hip to the right-wing rhetorical tactic of trying to make me look stupid by "admitting" that I am wrong. Call John Kerry a gutless pig if you want; that's what free speech is for. I'm too busy typing to throw my hands to my ears and scream. If you want to sound like an uninformed jackass, I have no problem with that. But I try to keep it civil and knowledgeable here.

"How do you explain...Kerry's views when they change like a fart in the wind[?]"

Do you parrot every one of your views from the GOPAC faxes? Or does the lack of analysis come naturally?

"I'll be glad when Kerry loses and he can go back to getting his manicures in between senate sessions..."

I bet you don't know that Fox News reporter Carl Cameron made up that quote, as well as all of the others in that article. Hell, I KNOW you don't know that. Otherwise, there's simply no excuse to keep beating that oh-so-hilaripus joke into the ground.

"After Ted Kennedy flips another car in a river."

No Bush supporter should EVER make jokes about car crashes. But hey, if you want to show your outdatedness and desperation by making Ted Kennedy jokes that haven't been funny or effective since 1969, then by golly, you're in the right place! If you want to make conservatism look bad, then you'll save me a ton of work by doing it here. So nice of you to stop by!

Anonymous said...

Why is it that every time someone does something to honor those who died during 9/11 the left has to make fun of it or denigrate it? What can they not take it as it is--a memorial to honor those who died.

Why does the left always have to bring up those who've died in Iraq when talking about those who died in 9/11? Why can't the families who lost loved ones on 9/11 have a memorial that isn't criticized?

If it were one of my family members listed on that truck, I'd be highly pissed at the way you demean and politicize it.

Just say you're sorry for their losses and leave it at that. Get a clue and a heart

Ian McGibboney said...

"Why is it that every time someone does something to honor those who died during 9/11 the left has to make fun of it or denigrate it? What can they not take it as it is--a memorial to honor those who died."

Because these memorials are usually done in a manner to justify brutal acts of vengeance; witness "Have you forgotten?" Is that an insult or what? OF COURSE WE HAVEN'T FORGOTTEN! The only point of that question is to ask us why we aren't as bloodthirsty as the right. The logic seems to be, if we're not itching to blow away all Muslims, then we are degrading the memories of the victims of 9/11.

"Why does the left always have to bring up those who've died in Iraq when talking about those who died in 9/11?"

Your president used those 3,000 dead names to launch a dubious war in Iraq that led to many, many more dead lives in a nation that had nothing to do with the original death toll in the first place. THAT'S why we bring them up. Are you suggesting that we sweep that under the rug?

"Why can't the families who lost loved ones on 9/11 have a memorial that isn't criticized?"

Why can't they have a memorial that doesn't criticize liberalism? Is it a requirement that every list of dead people from 9/11 questions the patriotism of those who differ on how best to honor the values of America?

"If it were one of my family members listed on that truck, I'd be highly pissed at the way you demean and politicize it."

I'm not the one demeaning and politicizing it! Unless every dead person on that list was a right-wing Republican hawk, I'd guess that at least a few of those victims would object to the GOP's use of their names to justify the darkest neoconservative fantasies.

"Just say you're sorry for their losses and leave it at that."

I'd like to see your side do that as well. That's why I liked the memorial that U2 unveiled at halftime during Super Bowl XXXVI: it was simply a list of names and maybe a historical note. I don't even mind a nice poem or note of remembrance. However, having a memorial of this sort is like engraving "Aren't you pissed off?!!" on the grave of a murdered child. It's tasteless, pointless and does nothing to honor the dead. Quite the opposite.

Michael said...

If one of my family members were listed on that truck, I'd damn sure be calling up the owner and insisting he take it off! It is the families of the victims who get to decide how they are memorialized and how they are remembered--not the callous idiots who only want to make a buck or try to score a partisan political advantage with the corpses of 3,000 dead.

Anonymous said...

There are some sad people posting comments with regard to the 9/11 truck. The person who said they'd have the trucker remove his family member's name obviously doesn't know what it's like to lose someone to a tragedy like 9/11. The trucker is simply showing his appreciation for those lives lost in 9/11. Some choose to go to a memorial and pray. Other choose to not talk about it, even though it's always there in their mind. No one has the right to tell another human to remove a memorial from something they own, regardless of who's name is on it. The left side doesn't care about using or not using the names as justification. The left is looking for any reason to publicly attack any right-wing person for anything. Ian doesn't delete the comments because he wants to get his last shots in without allowing the person to rebut. If he didn't have a snide lie to come back with, he'd delete it for sure.

Ian McGibboney said...
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Ian McGibboney said...

Did I delete your comment? No. Do I have a snide comeback for you? No. You're entitled to your opinion.

[Edited for spelling error]